Puppy Linux Discussion Forum

[fredx181]

Discontinued, see here:
http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?p=946694#946694

Edit: The thread that the above link points to doesn't exist anymore.
Short version of the story:
Using the name "DebianDog" (by me) caused so much trouble in general (and got me personally in such a stressful situation), that I finally gave up developing any further using that name.

*** Debiandog-Stretch with Deepin DE ***

Much more light than Xenialdog-Deepin which has (memory leak) problems and therefore has been discontinued.

Deepin Website
(Edit: there was a choice for english some time ago, now it seems to be only in chinese language)

Deepin packages taken from Sparkylinux, but some modified a little (less dependencies)
The Deepin DE included here (version 15.3) is very basic, no extras, such as deepin filemanager, terminal, music etc... are not included.

Kernel: 4.7.0-1-686-pae

Default WM - Deepin (with option JWM, logging in as root, see below)
Default File Manager - Thunar with option to use rox.
Default Internet Browser - Firefox.

Added:
- Quick-remaster (works with porteus-boot only)
- Lightdm Login Manager

Minimum System requirement: 1GB of RAM, recommended 2GB or more.
Main "01-filesystem.squashfs" is compressed XZ
Tip: when installed frugally, use "Convert-SFS" to convert "01-filesystem.squashfs" to GZIP or LZ4, booting and running will be faster then, although filesize will be increased.
And:To disable composite (window effects), press Super+Shift+Tab (toggle composite on/off) (there's also "Toggle WindowEffects" on the desktop and the dock to enable/disable window effects)


Login details:

puppy with password puppy (default automatic login)
root with password root

Note 1: Login as root into Deepin doesn't work, problems are e.g. very high CPU usage, resulting in freeze of the system. Couldn't find a solution for that problem.
Login as root into JWM works, log in from console (e.g. from vt2) and type startx

Note 2: Default user "puppy" has much extra (admin) permissions, no password needed using sudo or gsu (graphical sudo) for all applications. (this is set in /etc/sudoers: puppy ALL = NOPASSWD: ALL)
Create a new user (use "Add New user" (from Applications menu) ) for a real unprivileged user.

Note 3: The Debian Stretch (testing) repository is set to "static", from debian.snapshot, see more info here (e.g. how to change to regular repository):
https://github.com/DebianDog/Stretch/blob/gh-pages/README.md
(scroll a little down for Deepin)

There are some launchers for 'Filemanager SuperUser' and 'Terminal SuperUser' on the the Desktop and the bottom bar.

Many thanks to forum member belham2, for his inspiring post Here that made me curious in the first place about the Deepin DE.
And of course, thanks very much to all who were involved with creating DebianDog.

Download:
ISO:
DebianDog-Stretch-Deepin-DE-2017-01-02.iso Size: 357 MB
Md5sum:
DebianDog-Stretch-Deepin-DE-2017-01-02.md5

Fred

Screenshots:

Desktop


Move mouse pointer to upper right corner for control-center


Move mouse pointer to upper left corner for applications


Move mouse pointer to bottom left corner for all windows

[fredx181]

reserved

[ally]

mirrored here: http://archive.org/details/Puppy_Linux_Light-Debian-Core-Live-CD

[dancytron]

I did the typical manual frugal install. Didn't install any drivers.

Everything works. Loading the desktop takes a few seconds. When the compositing is on, it takes about 3% cpu (per Conky) and that's with my G30 Intel obsolete graphics. In use, speed is fine.

Deepin DE is pretty good. I was expecting to hate it, but it grows on you.

Seems totally usable. Great job.

edit again: I used it for a couple of hours and Deepin has a lot going for it, but it needs a few alternate ways to view. Just a list option for the application launcher and control panel would be a big improvement. The animation, hot corners and overlays still seem cool rather than annoying. Runs well on old Intel 1.8 Ghz dual core with G30 obsolete graphics.

I could see deploying Deepin to a bunch of people to use and not have to really train them, which is unusual for linux.

[dancytron]

Fred said:

[ARModer64]

Not bad.. But cpu usage on setting wallpaper kills my notebook.. Its 100% for almost a minute... And 600mb ram usage if you add the cache..

[vancheese]

I'm loving debiandog but I'm having a couple of issues with Porteus when trying to boot from a usb stick. The issues result in a non-boot.
Is this the right place to ask these questions and if so, what information is required?

[backi]

Going try to give an answer .
Feel free to ask .
Are you using Debian Dog Stretch Deepin or another Dog ?

How looks your boot menu.lst --------and where is your live folder located ?
I know it is on a Usb stick but is it maybe located in a folder ......how is this folder named ?
menu.list will show the path.

[vancheese]

I'm using debiandog-stretch without deepin. I've just realised I might have badly cross-posted - Sorry
My issue is that a porteus boot stops after search for stretch_i486.sgn, stating the device is not ready. However liveboot works fine. I've installed debiandog using the default installer. I'll post the menu.lst tonight. Is there any documentation about the different between the two systems and which one I should use?

[backi]

Hi vansheese !
I used for a while Debian Stretch ....but could not see much advantage over Debin Dog Jessie .....except there was a newer version of Audacious audioplayer
to download (did almost the same as the older Version ).
I would propose you to go with the Debian Dog Jessie .....because Stretch is not that much supported .

Here some links that show some more useful Details .

https://debiandog.github.io/doglinux/
https://github.com/DebianDog/

Here some more detailed advices for Jessie .
https://debiandog.github.io/doglinux/zz01debiandogjessie.html

[vancheese]

Unfortunately, I need a package version which is only available in stretch otherwise, I think I would dropback a version too ...
I've read through the links
Is there any more details re porteus v liveboot?

[backi]

O.K. vansheese !

Here is how i installed DebianDog Jessie to an Usb-Stick .
Formatted Usb to ext4
set bootflag
Create a new empty folder (for example debdog2....in my case )
extract the new Debian Dog Jesssie
copy the live folder into debdog2 folder on Usb
apply Grub4dos to yourUsb Stick

edit the menu.lst
like i did....this will you allow to boot Jessie without automatic save .....saves only on shutdown or on demand during session with save Folder .
In my opinion ..the best method .

My menue.lst :

title DebianDog jessie new - changes on exit /debdog2/live sysvinit
find --set-root /debdog2/live/vmlinuz1
kernel /debdog2/live/vmlinuz1 from=/debdog2 noauto changes=EXIT:/debdog2/live ramsize=100%
initrd /debdog2/live/initrd1.xz

Here some more boot examples .

https://github.com/DebianDog/Jessie/releases/tag/v2.1/
Here another place to start
http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=108535
The same with Deb Dog Stretch.

[vancheese]

That is awesome - I'll try this tonight before I write back
Thanks

VanCheese

[backi]

Hi !
Here is another example of my menu.lst (using grub4dos ) for Stretch .

title DDSTRETCH- changes to /DDSTRETCH/live/ sysvinit
root (hd0,0)
kernel (hd0,0)/DDSTRETCH/live/vmlinuz1 from=/DDSTRETCH noauto changes=EXIT:/DDSTRETCH/live/ ramsize=100%
initrd (hd0,0)/DDSTRETCH/live/initrd1.xz

My (from Iso ) extracted (Stretch) live Folder... is copied to a Folder named DDSTRECH on a Usb -Stick .Above my menue.lst.

Should work for you.

To avoid possible trouble with the installer .....i recommend ...doing the manual method.... extracting the Iso and copy the live folder to your Usb-stick.

[belham2]